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I went to a -- i had a situation where i was a very excellent student. came out. made billions and billions of dollars, became one of the top business people. went to television. and for ten years was a tremendous success, as you probably have heard, ran for president one time and won and then i hear this guy that does not know me, doesn't know me at all. by the way, didn't interview me for three -- said he interviewed me for three hours in the white house. didn't exist, okay? it's in his imagination. >> said no smart guy. >> no. >> in the world. i never met -- it's kind of like war heroes. wa...