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Use this to discuss an argument that she could have -- >> tucker: that's a smart point. >> and maybe she would be on the tucker carlson show. >> tucker: she is not stupid. >> exactly. >> tucker: her claim to fame is i have read the policies. there is some truth in that. she could be doing that but she's not. >> she's been in the white house and the senate and been the secretary of state. yet this is a group therapy dynamic going over the same complaints, maybe people there read her book. but she's inserting news of the day. like suddenly the cambridge analytica and the nra. that's the news hap...

So there's no winning situation there. >> romney would bring a star power to the senate that we don't have in the current senate. we've had it with someone like marco rubio but he's a diminished figure. >> and john mccain before he got ill. >> yes. and in some ways he would almost be the figure head of a parallel party, a parallel party standing for free trade and traditional reliances around the world and perhaps a more moderate view on things like climate change and some of these issues and he would become a tribune for that and a collision course with the president, just knowing romney, it'...

Be the figure head of a parallel party, a parallel party standing for free trade and traditional reliances around the world and perhaps a more moderate view on things like climate change and some of these issues and he would become a tribune for that and a collision course with the president, just knowing rahomne it's hard to see that. >> we've seen jeff flake play that role and it's worked to varying degrees. jeff flake is leaving the senate because of that but he's in a different situation. if romney were to win in utah, he could likely have that senate seat. >> it's a smart point made by jo...

Rampant sexual harassment happening in washington and in journalism, and those are cases propelled by anonymous sources, much like cases like watergate or the pentagon papers. >> tucker: let me have agree with you. i think you are making a smart point. there are plenty of times we see justice done with the help of anonymous sources. that is real, and i have seen it. i hope you will be honest enough to concede that you open yourself up to the potential for real abuse where you empower people when you grant them anonymity to make reckless claims and crush people, and may be in the media, our job...

To be hit over the head. >> that's a smart point. a lot of adults don't trush washington to do anything anyway. that's an interesting point. >> these are not ivy league talking points. >> they are political smarts. she messaging to the people that he is trying to message to. they are receiving those. >> agreed, but if it was john kerry or something championing the credentials, trump would be making fun of it. they think it suits him. >> i'm going to get the wharton class roster. >> celebrating wikileaks over the leaked e-mails that made her look bad. >> wikileaks is brutal stuff. i may not rea...