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>> she has criticized the construction of a wall on the mexican border as he criticized her. >> i think she is very bad for our country. >> it is saturday, february 2nd. it certainly feels like groundhog day. >> she knows that you need a barrier. >> this's not going to be wall money. >> rise and shine. it's cold out there today. >> it's not too early for flap jacks or doughnuts this saturday. up next is ned price, a national security analyst and assistant to president obama. the anchor and executive producer of npr. last, but not least, the host on serius xm.

Now a bipartisan security has 13 days left to hammer out a proposal. that could come down to how they define what a wall is. >> i would love to spend money on what i call a small wall rather than a concrete edifice. we cannot protect the border with concrete. >> smart wall, slats or peaches. president trump tween et this, let's call them walls from now on and stop playing political games. >> nancy pelosi remains steadfast. >> if they come out with a bipartisan consensus, yeah. >> there will not be any wall money in the legislation. >> president trump tipped his

Open. and my reading is that my republican colleagues are determined to keep the government open just as we are. i hope that's true. secondly, the question of the president making this the be all and end all of border security is nonsense. we had an approach to border security that included a physical impairier in certain parts of the border. we subjectsed it to very, very careful scrutiny. we said is this the best way to secure the border? is it effective? and we've built 650 miles of fencing. and a lot has changed since then, though. first of wall, we have those 650 miles. actually, the appe...

Crossings are way, way down, despise his portrayal of some kind of crisis. secondly, the mix of migrants has changed. this is now people turning themselves in, often families, unaccompanied children. a wall is irrelevant to their situation. thirdly, we have a lot of border security needs that are far, far more important than any kind of physical barrier. most particularly fixing up the situation at our ports of entry, more personnel, more detention equipment. we need immigration judges. there are lots of things we need and we can't have it all. within the boundaries of this appropriations bill...

I want to get your perspective on what we are seeing here. the president, in the rose garden talking about the three-week period where the group of 17 is hammering things out. now he doesn't care what they do or don't do. >> you are seeing three parts. two of whom could reach an agreement, a sensible agreement that includes a physical barrier and this idea of an invisible wall, an effective wall to stop the threats. there's some agreement that come across the border, whether it's drugs or anything else. you see the third party, donald trump, who is in a very different place. donald trump, who ...