Government, has got to look to what is happening in libya, a huge ungoverned space and apparently a source of some awful extremism. But was manchester a consequence of our Foreign Policy . Manchester was a consequence of one person going into a music event and killing a very large number of people, there can be no defence whatsoever of that. So nothing to do with Foreign Policy . I do not in any way change that view. That is just a vile, horrible event and those people have got to be brought to book. Obviously, the one who did it is dead but there appears to be a whole connection of them. I made the point that if we are to have a secure future, weve got to look at ungoverned spaces around the world and the consequences of our wars of intervention. This is notjust me, as i said, this is mi5, its Foreign Affairs select committee, its a number of other people. But im struggling to find the role of Foreign Policy you see Islamic State was founded well before the invasion of iraq. Its murde