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Situation. he's also fearful of making that public because of chances it further pushes cohen toward the southern district. i understand the game that's being played with the mueller probe, painting the fbi as crooked. you think they're running the same play with the southern district? do you think that is sort of a one size fits all, smear the investigator strategy? >> i think that will put it under the broad umbrella of the quote-unquote deep state. and i think that probably god knows between 30 and 40% of the populati probably buy that based on trp's polling. rudy giuliani, it cannot be e...

Republicans are ahead. the president finished, there was no collusion except by the democrats. if you believed that, mr. president, you'd stop smearing the investigation into collusion and let them prove your innocence. even one of your friend suggested the me yesterday that may very well be the fatal flaw of your smear mueller strategy. joining me is former federal probability paul butler. president sounding guiltier and guiltier by the day while at the same time rudy giuliani basically concedes, hey, yeah, we're looking at impeachment, but if we smear the investigation we should be fine. >> ...

That point. we can guess that were trump to fire mueller, you would have focus group after focus group of trump voters saying it's a good idea. trump is a genius. supporters will support him. >> it's do what you're told. that's the religion. >> i think that's correct. >> jonathan? >> they seem to be smart enough to know it would look like lel if he fired the guy. >> i think that's true. to pull back a little bit, it's already clear this investigation is now a red/bluish. that's exactly what happened to the bill clinton impeachment situation in the '90s. that's great for trump. that's in fact r...

Anything, or is that just somebody surmised? again, nothing surprises me about james comey. i don't think it's be used for smear mueller. >> laura: here's another big story. her me to come i want to get into this. devin nunes and trey gowdy went to the justice department today and they were allowed to review certain classified documents. they said this afterward. we had a productive discussion today with officials at the office of director of national intelligence, department of justice, fbi and ruth questions related to the intel community. committed to holding further discussion of these mat...

That tends to be when we see him lash out and do even more erratic things. is mueller safe? none of us can say with certainty that he is because donald trump oftentimes does things just to prove that he can. we will continue to see him try and trash the entire thing, smear mueller, smear the entire investigation as a witch hunt, to dollcolor the perceptions th whatever he comes back with is somehow biased, somehow -- >> frank figliuzzi made that point. >> he's going to continue to lean into that harder. but does he go beyond that if he gets more unnerved something worse could be coming? i thin...