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>> not enough, i would say. there's been a lot of good journalism done. but i don't sense that there is a tone to it or an overall context in the journalism that says, red alert, our democracy is at risk here. it's sort of high -- it's one side using bad smelling efforts to seek advantage. it doesn't look to be like this scale of the threat is reflected in what's being said. what you are not seeing in the coverage is an underlying message, this is abnormal. this is beyond the pale.

>> how much do you think it's getting that treatment? >> not enough, i would say. there's been a lot of good journalism done, but i don't sense that there is a tone to it or an overall context in the journalism that says red alert, our democracy is at risk here. it's sort of high jinx and bad behavior in state parties and one side using bad smelling efforts to seek advantage. but it doesn't look to me like the scale of the threat is reflected in what's being said. what you're not seeing in the coverage is an underlying message this is abnormal, this

Getting that treatment? >> not enough, i would say. there's been a lot of good journalism done, i don't sense there's a tone to it in an overall context in the journalism that said red alert. our democracy is at risk here. it's sort of hijinx and bad behavior in state parties and one side using bad smelling efforts to seek advantage but it doesn't look to me like the scale of the threat is reflected in what's being said. what you are not seeing in the coverage is an underlying message, this is abnormal. this is beyond the pale.