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Or the other bill or both of them at the same time. but as far as speaker pelosi goes, i do think that, you know, number one, we've seen her more amenable to the needs of some of the recalcitrance that she used to just kind of snap back into shape when she needed to, and i think some of that does have to do with the fact that she's said that this will be her last term as speaker. you know, there's no fear factor with pelosi anymore and i think it also speaks to a larger thing that's been going on in our politics, which is, in both parties, really, a resistance to establishment figures and the ...

Effect when republicans pass these extreme laws not based on the will of the people but because they gamed the system. >> so, again, i think we are approaching overreach where you are going to have a snap back, where the pendulum is going to swing back. but what is moderating that snap back is the lines that are going to be drawn. we know in 2010 the lines were drawn to texas to favored republicans. we know that republicans are in the driver's seat for redirecting this time around. i think the will of the people -- we look at the university of texas. folks are not at extreme here in tx tbs as ...

Conspiracies. >> so the question is basically when do we get to the point of overreach? when do the extremities of the republican party snap back? snap back either for the republicans themselves or for democrats to get even further mobilized? and that is really key. and i am optimistic and i do hold out hope that there will be some kind of federal level protection for voting rights given that was stripped in 2013 after scotus did that. but what is happening right now in texas, will that push that forward? because what you said early is this the death by a thousand cuts to our democracy and it ...

Federal legislation that is passed which is -- certainly, we cannot take our eye off of that. but also, this question that we all circle back to and i have asked strategists, i've asked former electeds but for you as a political scientist, i'm worried -- i wondering is there going to be a consequence at some point, right? when does the consequence come for republicans as a party for not just going along with all of this but being active partners in building these lies and these conspiracies? >> so the question is basically when do we get to the point of overreach? when do the extremities of th...

Freedom and what this market's snap back is saying that we're inspired by our leaders. >> neil: all right. that was about a month after the attacks on the floor of the new york stock exchange. trading stopped across the world and certainly in our country for upwards of a week. when the markets reopened, they tanked. by then they clawed back most of the losses after we launched our campaign to go to afghanistan to take out the taliban. optimism ran high. 20 years later a reversal of fortunes that has still prompted more drama every day with folks still trying to get out. let's do to jennifer gr...