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Security but today i should say on abc i think it was, he went a little bit on offense talking about national security and ted cruz, the man now who surpassed him in the polls. listen to what ben carson said. >> i spent many a night in the operating room cold sterile place with a little child's life on the line working very hard to preserve that. that's a different kind of experience. lots of 2:00 a.m. in the morning calls and making snap decisions on what needs to be done. one of the things i recognize is that a good ceo doesn't necessarily know everything, but he gets a lot of people around ...

Juncture if this was homicide suicide versus homicide-suicide versus something else. in our field, we have a similar sort of recommended methodology to what mr. mcnamara was describing, it involves an intense investigative process, and record gathering where you interview family friends, gather essentially any record you can get your hand on legal records, mental health records. i want to echo the point, events like this are very rarely sort of snap decisions. this is very likely something that he had been -- if indeed this was a suicide or homicide-suicide, something he was planning for some ...

Like this are very rarely sort of snap decisions. this is very likely something that he had been -- if indeed this was a suicide or homicide-suicide, something he was planning for some time. >> doctor, who are the people you would like to? who would be the first round of interviews you would want to do on this? >> to be honest with you, i don't know his family circumstances. but essentially you want to get to the people who are closest to him. this can take, you know, a period of months. obviously, a spouse or a romantic partner, if there was such a person, parents, children, friends, co-worke...

Took for it to happen is a whole another matter. but right now just trying to deal way very new reality for them, because for the past seven days, as -- 17 days, as i mentioned, they have been clinging to that little bit of hope this would not happen and their family members would be found alive. >> and understandable. i think those who walk in their shoes would understand more than those watching on television, oh who have made a lot of snap decisions. sara sidner, thank you. >> it's not easy to be there with these people who have had their lives upended. thanks to sarah. as we said, this fol...

Time, getting in and outside of that car, she had a lot of snap decisions to make, and i'm not sure i would have made any one of them differently. >> james cavanaugh, there's a lot of good cops out there, great cops who would have known how to handle this situation with this mother under these circumstances, and they know they have plenty of discretion about how to handle this situation, and the great cops also known what's at stake here. and what's at stake is a vehicle that was going 71 miles an hour in a 55-mile-an-hour zone. that was the legal issue that was at stake. nothing bigger than t...