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>> yeah. how do you see both sides of the aisle trying to negotiate on a farm bill considering such a huge $35 billion gap between how much the house and senate want to cut from the food stamp program? >> one of the questions that has to be answered here in the budget is whether whether or not we're going to have additional revenue. the republicans keep insisting there can be no revenue. now, if they do that, that means the s.n.a.p. program will be cut but it also means health research will be cut and the sequester will continue. and it's going to be very hard to get a resolution of the budget...

>> this is our principal food assistance program. people relied on it for a very long time. it was always part of a farm bill where agricultural subsidies were provided. at the same time, we ensured people would not go hungry. the real tragedy is the republican proposal that came out of the house. they made the farm subsidies more generous at the same time they cut $40 billion in the snap program. you know, this is money that helps stimulate the economy in addition to feeding people. folks to the floor the ability to hold on to this. they spend it right away to support themselves and their fam...

For some of the program cuts. president obama borrowed money from s.n.a.p. to pay for a portion of the first lady's anti-obesity campaign and he was perhaps naively counting on congress to refund the money he took away. cnn's rosa flores has more. >> reporter: it sounded like a great idea when it was launched. a program aimed in part at making school lunches healthier. >> we're determined to finally take on one of the most serious threats to their future and that's the epidemic of childhood obesity. >> reporter: but to fund that war on obesity, the white house borrowed money from the war on hu...

Very real people. and another thing, if you are going to shut down the government, that means you are not investing in new jobs in this country. the number one way to decades the deficit in this country are put people back to work. you have more tax paying citizens and you can expand what people are able to do in their daily lives. so i think the republicans are attacking this from the wrong end of the problem. what they ought to be doing is about investing in the american people. for instance, they wanted to cut the s.n.a.p. program. that's going to impact 5,000 active duty servicemen and wom...

Need. so yes, governor kasich, there is a war on the poor. now it's time to join the fight against it. it's time for your colleagues to wake up. joining me now is congresswoman barbara lee, democrat from california. thank you for coming on the show. >> very happy to be with you, reverend al. >> governor kasich calling out republicans for demonizing the poor. are some republicans starting to wake up to reality? >> i think this is a very good sign, because i always say that republicans have low income people, people who are poor in their districts also. when you look at what is taking place and ...