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87% of all of the stamp beneficiaries are either children, senior citizens on fixed incomes, or single parents trying to raise their children, and our veterans. >> the farm bill links the fats of nutritional assistance programs for subsidies. in the house version that 16 ppt 5 was cut from s.n.a.p. this while they've grown at a much faster rate over the past decade than the snap program has. the farm program is a smart thing that washington does. that's usually a recipe for terrible policy and this bill is no different. joel, could we begin on the terrain here.

Issue is education. you know, so if you have money and you don't know how to cook/shop, then it really makes it difficult to make good decisions based around hunger. that's why i think these cooking matters classes that i help teach that share strength help started, the s.n.a.p. program funds these programs is so important because it really gives these people the knowledge of food and cooking, and it's something that -- it's a life skill that in our culture has been taken away, and it's a shame. >> and your program is funded by s.n.a.p. and would be cut under the house bill if i'm not mistaken...

Can you tell us how you came to know the s.n.a.p. program then called food stamps personally and how that kind of changed your perspective on this? >> well, in 1997 i was in a horrendous skiing accident and broke both of my legs and both of my ankles and was in a wheelchair almost for about eight months, and, you know, at that point i couldn't work. my daughter was 1 year old. basically put my wife and my family in a position where we needed federal assistance. >> and how did that change your perspective? did you have prekon received ideas before and afterward obviously you committed yours to ...

Ridiculous to beg people to get on food stamps and tell me what you are in the enemy and home that you own and car. sign up for government benefits. >> yeah, it is horrible when you think about the original intent of the 1964 food stamp act. we have gotten so far away from it. in 2002, we spent 20.6 billion a year today in 2012, we are spening 75.8 billion on food stamps and look at the farm bill debated in the 70. 80 percent of that farm bill is food statches it is a big business industry and used it in convenience foregas stations and just yesterday at a 7-11 taking the snap program or ebt c...

No income coming in. this seems ridiculous telling people to get on food stamps, it doesn't matter what year income, you've got a car, and a home that you own and sign up for government benefits. >> well, it's horrible and when you think about the origin at the point in time of 1964 food stamp act. we've gotten so far away from it. in 2002 we were spending about 20.6 billion dollar a year on food stamps. today in 2012, spending 75.8 billion dollars on stood camps and if you look at the fom girl decrated in the senate, 80% of that is good stamps. what we see now is a big business energy, you ca...