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Was a deal that he was going to get enough people to vote present that mccarthy was able to limp over the finish line. but we don't know the whole list. the motion to vacate which would allow any member to force a snap vote to reveal the speaker which means kevin mccarthy if they're starting at what some people have said a resignation written, an undated resignation letter written in his top drawer, that's kind of hanging over him. but then those rules committee and the more extreme one of his party pick a third of the members of the committee is a big d. because the rules committee kind of di...

To limp over the finish line. so we do not know the whole list, but a motion to vacate will allow any member to force a snap vote for the speaker, and it means that kevin mccarthy is basically, with some people saying, a resignation letter written, and resignation letter in his top drawer, that's hanging over him. but then this rules committee, and letting them be more extreme, when his party picked a third of the members of the rules committee is a big deal, because the rules committee dictates how business functions in the house, how bills are brought to the four. >> it is how the businesses...

Same people that conservatives were holding up in high esteem don't necessarily have those voting records while they're at the same time criticizing ken mccarthy who -- kevin mccar they're who does. he did object on january 6th, and he's been a top -- howard: so do you believe joe biden is a legitimately elected president? >> that's always a silly question. howard: wasn't trying to be salie -- silly, i was just trying to clarify. we have about a half a minute left. the media is saying mccarthy's weakened his speakership, especially when the number of members required to do a snap vote on wheth...

Know, jim jordan going to be whipping support for this? is he actually going to try to make an actual attempt to challenge mccarthy to say listen, he's not viable. i'm your guy. i'm the conservative you should be rallying around. that is going to be the biggest factor. we don't know so i don't want to say that's going to be his strategy, but it's so instructive to think about their history. has he, is he going to be loyal to kevin mccarthy or strike on his own and say all right, i've got six vote even trying. what if i try to take biggs' ten votes and i start to have some momentum. >> yeah, a ...

Motion to vacate the speaker's chair, something the hardliners are pushing for. it would allow any single member to force a snap vote to depose the sitting speaker. mccarthy and many republicans are against that idea worried 2 could hamper their ability to govern but mccarthy may need to find a compromise. they had a meeting yesterday to talk about potential solutions and it could be key to unlocking their votes for speaker. >> remarkable drama that continues, still short the votes. mel, appreciate that. let's bring it back to the room. there's the never kevin group and the only kevin group ...