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That's the only guidance i had. mike, you were arrested like 38 times by the time you were 13 years old. i don't understand that. how can that even happen? well, i wasn't a good crook, i guess. - ( laughter ) - if i got caught 38 times, i wasn't good. i mean-- fair enough. what were you doing? robbing houses, snatching jewelry, snatching purses, pick-pocketing. how does a kid get arrested 38 times? the cops are just letting you go, letting you go, letting you go? if you're a young kid, your mother has to just come and pick you up. you don't really get any charges. so there were never consequen...

That's the only guidance i had. mike, you were arrested like 38 times by the time you were 13 years old. i don't understand that. how can that even happen? well, i wasn't a good crook, i guess. - ( laughter ) - if i got caught 38 times, i wasn't good. i mean-- fair enough. what were you doing? robbing houses, snatching jewelry, snatching purses, pick-pocketing. how does a kid get arrested 38 times? the cops are just letting you go, letting you go, letting you go? if you're a young kid, your mother has to just come and pick you up. you don't really get any charges. so there were never consequen...

When i got out and them guys were saying that about me, i'm going to kill john, i'm going to do this to him, the first thing in my mind is well i better go kill him before he gets me, you know? even though he was probably talking out of his ass. he really didn't understand the type of person that i am and where i've been and the thought process that i've learned in here. and he's dead now for it. it's kind of like a kill or be killed. >> estrada's prison education started early. >> how old were you when you were first arrested? >> when i first -- about 13, 14. >> what did you do? >> stealing a...

Snatching purses, stealing car stereos, stealing bikes, stealing the whole car, breaking in houses, robberies, escape, just graduate all the way to murder. it seemed like it was a never-ending chain. >> and estrada added even more links to that chain. when he returned to prison on the murder charge, he was involved in another killing. >> another inmate came up behind a friend of mine and stabbed him in the eye. i got up. he tried to stab me. i grabbed him and held him in a choke hold. my friend started hitting him, beating him up. all the officers were aware of this at the time. and they have ...