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Let's figure out what happened here. so doyle is the guy who was charged. gonzalez is the guy who wound up dead. on the tape you hear gonzalez say i'm going to whoop his "a" and he's following doyle. he followed doyle to his home. doyle's the one who says i've got the guns out and doyle is the one who fired the guns at gonzalez who was following him home because somebody was expressing road rage. i don't know who did it first, but the point is i'll ask you, arthur why have they now charged doyle with second-degree murder when this other man was following him home to the house and saying he was...

I just read the statute. and it has to do with what the perception is by mr. doyle and if mr. doyle has to see someone coming at him with a gun, a knife, a bat, or if he's evander holyfield or mike tyson, someone who could kill with you one punch but man on man, mano a mano you can't execute someone -- >> and that's clearly how the cops felt, too. go ahead, mark. >> i disagree. no one in the statute, i've been practicing over two decades, does it say a gun is needed a bat is needed a knife is needed. what is needed is reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm so let's back up. in traffic y...