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Next summer. he doesn't think trump is going to go to jail. doesn't really explain why a guy convicted for stealing nuclear secrets wouldn't go to jail. we can talk about that later, but just look ahead, you have this georgia, this sprawling georgia case, you have january 6th which i think is going to move pretty quickly and the documents case, all of that happening between now and most likely donald trump's convention, except the georgia cases because it's so sprawling, but you have at least two federal cases and very real possibility of donald trump convicted in the january 6th case and the ...

Some members don't attend in order to protect themselves if they are not going to learn a whole lot. >> gregg: the merits or demerits notwithstanding, i wonder if it's symbolic of what the fox news poll found. 70% feel the federal government is out of control, that it has become so big, it can scarcely be controlled. do you agree? >> certainly now. we have an absentee president that spend details with management. we have seen that over and over again. we've seen a congress that increasingly transfers responsibilities to elected bureaucrats, whether epa or sec or nsa. my view that the governmen...