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Work is called entwined, which looks at the indian mutiny of 1857 when there was this uprising by indians against increasing british control, you know, brutally suppressed, and it resulted in direct british rule of india. why is it important for you to try to bring this perspective of this particular aspect? well, again, it's linking, it's the past—modern thing. it's linking the past to how that is relevant to us today, how the past impacts on today. so trade has always been connected with conflict. as long as you can remember, you know, people building empires was about conquering other lan...

So one very prominent work is called entwined, which looks at the indian mutiny of 1857 when there was this uprising by indians against increasing british control, you know, brutally suppressed, and it resulted in direct british rule of india. why is it important for you to try to bring this perspective of this particular aspect? well, again, it's linking, it's the past—modern thing. it's linking the past to how that is relevant to us today, how the past impacts on today. so trade has always been connected with conflict. as long as you can remember, you know, people building empires was abou...

And the very clear message that runs out through the whole exhibition also is a lot about conflict. i mean, perhaps less about celebration. and i know that's a theme that you explore very much in your work. so, one very prominent work is called entwined, which looks at the indian mutiny of 1857 when there was this uprising by indians against increasing british control, you know, brutally suppressed, and it resulted in direct british rule of india. why is it important for you to try to bring this perspective of this particular aspect? well, again, it's linking, it's the past—modern thing. it'...

Regulation. do you remember that number? it was fascinating. so trade, even though we are talking manufacturing a small part of the economy, all this trade stuff could really impact -- >> but keep in mind, trade hasn't disappeared. we are importing much more from vietnam. >> neil: what do you make of that? >> i would say to both of your points, really it's about confidence. and i understand a business leader saying come i don't know what to do. what if i had plans to build a manufacturing facility in china and now i have to reroute. >> neil: by the way, it's not that they can't but just at the...

And better because it's made somewhere else and in turn we get to export stuff. so trade is a good thing. that said, it is fair also to say that china is the most protectionist -- >> for sure. >> -- country in the world and i agree with the president that we should do something about it. launch a unilateral trade tariff war would not be how i would go about it. the europeans are just as upset about china's trade practices as we are. we should be getting together and pushing back on china, not by just sort of sallying forth and announcing a whole bunch of tariffs. >> larry kudlow has his first ...