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>>guest: well, they need to understand really what happened and the moral of the message there. the message is you can stand on principle for something that takes some courage to stand for and you can get re-elected. all along they thing you have to be weak need with no spine and you have to give people money whether you have it or not but you can stand up and say, look, the emporor has no clothes we are out of money and we value to conserve money and you can get re-elected. but that message hasn't completely soaked in, here in washington, dc. >>neil: i would have allowed it not smoking in aft...