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Soccer liner and went on to win the nomination. it was one of the things the people said to that you upset that they had that strategy and i said no, i admire them. it was a brilliant political strategy. it was honorable and nothing untoward about it and nothing unseemly or unethical but good, strong, hardball politics. it's what we all get into this business to do. you know, i always thought that was a smart and shrewd move and it was the reason he ended up being the nominee. he and i got along great. i did campaign with him and for him vigorously throughout the rest of the 2008 campaign. nev...

>> the fondest memory was not when he beat me, john, i will tell you that. [laughter] it was never personal. in fact, john mccain was able to defeat me in south carolina and that was the turning point. i was getting momentum up until that time but he had decided that if he did not win south carolina he was pulling out because he was about out of gas and out of money and i was a critical moment. he and fred thompson had a great plan. the plan was fred would stay in the race, use ready to get out, fred would stay and basically drive back and forth between greenville and freiburg and beat the stu...

>> the fondest memory was not when he beat me, john, i will tell you that. [laughter] it was never personal. in fact, john mccain was able to defeat me in south carolina and that was the turning point. i was getting momentum up until that time but he had decided that if he did not win south carolina he was pulling out because he was about out of gas and out of money and i was a critical moment. he and fred thompson had a great plan. the plan was fred would stay in the race, use ready to get out, fred would stay and basically drive back and forth between greenville and freiburg and beat the stu...