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Concentration camps in tibet, this really is a social control, totalitarian state. >> let's just look at one bit of that. you mentioned jaywalking. let's unpack that. how do they know. how can they use that to affect your social credit score. they're putting surveillance cameras in place. this is going to be a totally observe society and it feeds into the social credit system along with all sorts of other information and data. technology is enabling the chinese regime to go for total control. we talk about them as authoritarian in their moving back to totalitarian which is something we haven't...

This really is a social control, totalitarian state. >> let's just look at one bit of that. you mentioned jaywalking. let's unpack that. how do they know. how can they use that to affect your social credit score. they're putting surveillance cameras in place. this is going to be a totally observe society and it feeds into the social credit system along with all sorts of other information and data. technology is enabling the chinese regime to go for total control. we talk about them as authoritarian in their moving back to totalitarian which is something we haven't seen since the 1950s. >> what...

Every other state is required to follow. don't love missiles at your neighbors, don't attack tankers in international waters, we hope iran will come to the table and discuss the road. we will see what happens. shannon: i want to read from an op-ed piece you co-authored in the washington post. what china is doing to 1 million citizens, it is not counterterrorism, repression on a mass scale by modern technology. they say people being detained are a threat to the state. >> this is not about counterterrorism. we see a war on faith. china has detained over 1 million muslims who are ethnic minoritie...

Identities of minority groups. it's about religious oppression, pure and simple. >> shannon: "the guardian" is quoting the china tribunal that came together, that says that china is harvesting organs from detainees. a conclusion shows that very many people have died indescribably hideous deaths for no reason and we all live in a planet where extreme wickedness may be found in the power of those, for the time being, running a country with one of the oldest civilizations known to modern man." what do you make of that? speak of the camps are just the tip of the iceberg. in addition to 1 million p...

Cultural identities of minority groups. it is about religious oppression pure and simple. shannon: the guardian is quoting the chair of this tribunal. the china harvesting or gettings from detainees, very many people have died indescribably hideous deaths for no reason, more may suffer in similar ways, all of us live on a planet where extreme wickedness may be found in the power of those for the time being running a country with one of the oldest civilizations known to modern man. what do you make of that? >> reporter: the campsite described by the tip of the iceberg in addition to 1 million p...