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Premised on is the notion that there is a path to legalization and then there is a final at the end of the day solution for the border security issue, that we are able to secure the border. and this bill does, in fact, make great progress in the securing of the border. >> reverend al, your comments. >> i think that we can have different opinions. we can't have different facts. i think clearly it reduces the deficit, this bill. i think that clearly it creates jobs. and i think that it is very conservative for many of us that have been in the immigration movement and have said let's be fair. i d...

Premised on is the notion that there is a path to legalization and then there is a final at the end of the day solution for the border security issue, that we are able to secure the border. and this bill does, in fact, make great progress in the securing of the border. >> reverend al, your comments. >> i think that we can have different opinions. we can't have different facts. i think clearly it reduces the deficit, this bill. i think that clearly it creates jobs. and i think that it is very conservative for many of us that have been in the immigration movement and have said let's be fair. i d...

Majority of 51." you're saying is sky is not falling when republicans did it, you said it was illegal to do what you want to do. >> but you've answered my question. we're not touching judges. that's what that was talking about. this is not judges. this is not legislation. this is allowing the people of america to have a president who can have his team, to have his team in place. this is nothing like went on before. remember, remember what's going on. this president has had 16 executive nominations filibustered. we have now 15 pending waiting an average of -- waiting an average of -- i lost my ...

Senate wants to take them up, great, bipartisan consensus. if not, wait. >> the western border governor formerly, how do you respond? >> i think the bill is in trouble, and i regret it because i think the true conservative position on immigration reform, here's legislation that improves the gross domestic product. it reduces the deficit. it creates jobs, more social security rules. it's a path to legalization that takes 13 years. there's a lot of steps that need to be taken. employer sanctions. i was a border governor. illegal immigration has gone down. it's gone down. the border fence that ha...

Senate wants to take them up, great, bipartisan consensus. if not, wait. >> the western border governor formerly, how do you respond? >> i think the bill is in trouble, and i regret it because i think the true conservative position on immigration reform, here's legislation that improves the gross domestic product. it reduces the deficit. it creates jobs, more social security rules. it's a path to legalization that takes 13 years. there's a lot of steps that need to be taken. employer sanctions. i was a border governor. illegal immigration has gone down. it's gone down. the border fence that ha...