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>> heart breaking. heart breaking. >> in the seat of the mom or the dad in some cases, is that when president trump talks about illegal immigration, we talks about ms-13 and a horror and should be deported if not put in prison. but the reality is that a lot of the stories is these type of people, low skill, migrant women fleeing violence with their small children. >> that's right. >> economic opportunity. we don't know. >> we have an issue of trump and supporters way over here and everybody's -- a majority of people ms-13 and then bunch of people wish there are kind of was no border and there'...

Speech the secretary of state gave sunday night. >> right. >> that was a big story. the president puts out a tweet boldface all caps and talks about the tweet and not the secretary of state's -- >> one's the president. one's the -- >> has a responsibility. especially coming to foreign affairs. not to play those kind of childish games. >> doesn't matter. >> listen. i don't necessarily know in that instance, right, the iranians, right, we can all agree i think the people, good people, the government, not best government. right? >> right. >> we agree with this. >> look. i think there's an effort ...

Repeat it and giggle. >> he did. obviously he was getting the practice in some kind of way. >> well, listen. i was -- i campaigned with jeff sessions during the campaign. i stood next to him at many things and the events i was with him, stood next to him, he didn't. but to mary katherine's point, it was a teachable moment. could have shushed everybody down. let me explain how the department of justice works. >> yeah, but you say -- >> audience of one. he knew the president would be happy with what he was saying and i think he was -- it's a shame he's willing to put his credibility as the chief...