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This from muhammad ali. quote, the only man i idolize more muhammad ali saying that about hank aaron. i'm joined now by longtime sports writer mike lupica. he was more than hammering hank. >> you know, i very rarely wrote about him without describing him this way. the great henry aaron. he was a figure of grace and dignity and strength. he became the conscience and soul of baseball. he came along five years after jackie robinson. he said to me once that if they learned anything, the black players who came after jackie, it was this. never take no for an answer. i got to know him over the past c...

I would come down and say to my wife, this is a good job. she would say, why? i got off the phone with hank aaron. in the shadow of george floyd, we had a long conversation last june. he talked about how what was happening in america were the conversations he used to have with his grandchildren and the things they had to be afraid of and things they had to be concerned about in america. he talked about how inspired he was by the rising that he saw after george floyd. he talked about young people. he said, that's what gives me hope. white kids, black kids, they're the ones talking about and mar...

That job, i never forgot, not for one minute, that i was following in the footsteps of the greatest person of my era, and that was jackie robinson. he taught me in order for every black person who wanted to play sports, that to make the most of our talent and opportunity, we had to constantly bear down and bow down to no one and then pay it forward. this man spent all of his baseball life and then his post-baseball life paying it forward. >> mike, i have enjoyed your insight and perspective. we got a statement in from the atlanta braves. i will read part of it for our viewers and listeners as ...

Of numbers. he said, could you ask them to see if they could find a few more of my home runs. he was so respectful -- yeah, he did. he said, ask them to find eight or nine of mine. he was so respectful though, as you know in your conversation, of the players that he played with. he told me, i stood on their shoulders. he was making $200 a month with the indianapolis clowns. then boston braves purchased his contract for $10,000, moved to milwaukee and the rest is a glorious part not just in the history of this game -- craig, we are talking about a noteworthy and tremendous american life. >> whe...

Steele, victoria soto, than you all so very much. we have breaking news, very sad news from the world of baseball, from the world of really national history. home run legend hank aaron has passed away, hailing from humble beginnings in mobile, alabama, becoming one of the most important sports figures of the 21st century playing for the braves. he entered the history books in 1974, breaking the home run record of the great babe ruth. after his career on the field, he went on to become the first african-american to join major league baseball management at his beloved braves. in july of 2002, pr...