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Winning. felipe, he s got them in a chokehold and he s got a few countries in chokehold as well. this deal that he s brokered with guatemala that asylum claims will be done through a third-party configuration. i think guatemala s legislature has to approve any agreement like this. but drawing upon your experience in the state department, he s reducing funding to these northern triangle countries, not looking at the push factors at all. help us understand this decision. to start, he s practically defunding the state department himself. that was one of the priorities coming in. but it s not that easy. look, again, immigration is a wicked problem. it s not like it s gotten this far because people have ignored it and just decided not to hit the simple solution button. but these are not the way these are not the fixes. and, no, we don t get to tell third countries exactly how to do it. you know what s proof of that? ....

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