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Sure that people can get, you know, three square meals a day? >> i think it's beyond insane. if you and i have talked about this so many times. i've used the word criminal when we talk about hunger. it is not a problem that we don't have a solution to. we have enough food in america. we don't have the political will to actually change the laws. when you just talk about children, we have schools, all over america. if we passed a national school meals program, where we fed young people and used schools as the hubs. they are all over, whether or not a child is attending a certain educational faci...

Whether or not democrats can get through the build back better act. making sure that it all kind of works. there was help for people back then. does it strike you as insay we are still talking about whether or not to spend more money to make sure that people can get three square meals a day? >> i think that it is beyond insane. it is not a problem that we don't have a solution to. we have enough food in america.

This, it feels like it's about this. i remember you and i talked almost a year ago about the restaurant act and having to try to help people at every level of the food chain. you need to make sure the restaurant workers can still work. the people that do the meat packing can work and it all kind of works. there was some help for people back then and ppp, et cetera. now, how are we having this fight to extend let's say the child tax credit. give people more money to buy food with. does it strike you as insane we are sill dithering whether or not to spend more money to make sure that people can ...

Democrats can get through this build back better act, which a lot of what it addresses feels like it's about this. i remember you and i talked almost a year ago now about the restaurant act and having to like try to help people at every level of the food chain. you need to make sure that the restaurant workers can still work, that the people who do the meatpacking can still work and making sure it all kind of works. and there was some help for people back then and ppp, et cetera. but now it's like how are we having this fight about whether to extend, let's say, the child tax credit, give peopl...

For people but now it's like how are we having this fight whether to extend the child tax credit, give people more money to buy food with? it is -- does it strike you as just insane that we are still talking about whether to spend more money to make sure people can get three square meals a day? >> i think it's beyond insane. you and i have talked about this so many times. i've used the word criminal when we talk about hunger. it is not a problem that we don't have a solution to. we have enough food in america. we don't have the political will to actually change the laws. when you just talk abo...