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The whole economy down. >> let me ask that fill solvic question to mr. gaffy. would you let one of these big guys like lehman go down and not bail them out like president bush did, your president? >> absolutely. >> you would let them go down? >> before president obama even came out with a plan, we said we should have an expedited bankruptcy. chris, what about section 204 in the bill that secures the creditors going forward. what about section 210 in the bill that says the back-door program. >> i'm learning this like everybody is. control the bankruptcy is you let the same bum who is brought th...

Piece, bipartisan matter. may not like the final product, but we spent the time and energy to get it done as best we could in the senate. as you know, they're just pushing this thing along with some of the bad failed policies of the past. and i will agree with you there. those policies of the bush administration were bad and failed policies. and we should not perpetuate them into the future. >> let me ask you a big question to you both. chris van holland. if you have these big companies like goldman sachs, these leviathons, like the old railroad system, they're too big it fail. can you either ...