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Russians. i don't see how this helps us. >> neil: the president arguing yesterday that we can always find a reason to stay longer in wars that don't end that he felt that greeting the family members of those whose sons and daughters have come back from battle and coffins that it's got to stop. what do you say? >> i agree. we've been in 18 years of war. we as law -- we have lost sight of the war on terror. we can take 2,000 fighters, no more. put them someplace and go after the taliban in afghanistan and terrorists, the same that we can do -- that he can hit iraq and they can help in syria. we ...

>> two. >> two american soldiers in uniform have died? >> one coalition, one u.s. two. they have lost thousands. >> what kind of toll did they inflict on isis? >> it's in the tens of thousands of isis killed. >> for the allies, kobani was a turning point. >> every morning i would come in and i would be looking at a map in my briefing. i could see where isis colors had been taking over that map, suddenly it's moving in the other direction. that was so important. it really kind of broke the psychology. isis tried hard to take someplace and had been beaten. i think after that we knew what it took...

Intelligence agencies collectively said the opposite. i think what we have here is the coverup because there's no reason to take what we now saw as this document, which the produces was trying not to provide, and put it in a special server. that server is for covert activities, maybe actions taken by the cia or other element of government someplace in the world, maybe sensitive negotiations, north korea or iran. but it is certainly not about a conversation about getting dirt on your political opponent. that's a coverup. what we have seen in the attempts to stop access to this, what we have see...

Whistleblower complaint was made public? >> i certainly saw the core of the same offense that the congressman has described. there's no question that it falls within the boundaries of what is a heartland impeachable offense. and in this case not only for personal political gain, but at the sacrifice of national security interests. i completely agree with the congressman about that. what also strikes me is the president's actions are affecting the entire executive branch. he has his personal and political lawyer and associate working with state department officials and it is alleged the departm...

Used many times over the years. let's investigate more and find out more. but the facts we know already are just on their face impeachable. this is insane. this cannot -- >> this is really bad for our country. >> cannot happen in the united states of america. maybe in, you know, zimbabwe or someplace like that, but not in the united states of america. this is not the way our country does business. it's the way donald trump does business. >> and, by the way, willie, let's just look at, again, the fact pattern here. you're the president of ukraine, congress has approved $391 million, you are beg...