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Obviously in considering who they give pardons to and followed more of a process. but i think because donald trump clearly doesn't do that and he sent the message very clearly from the beginning he wasn't going to do that, it opens up these kinds of situations where you have somebody angling for a pardon the way manafort is. in such an ovaert way that i jut don't think in the past you would have been able to do that. >> jeff toobin, you've had plenty of sleazy people trying to get pardons from the president in the night after leaving the white house when their term is just about up. >> bill cl...

Transparency, he is also incredibly accidentally transparent. he does say stuff which is in his head which many presidents wouldn't say. >> right. yeah. i also think another thing that is different and maybe the lawyers can correct me if this isn't right. as a layperson it seems that pardons -- i don't think -- i think other presidents were more judicious, obviously, in considering who they gave pardons to, and followed more of a process, but i think because donald trump doesn't do that and he sent the message clearly from the beginning he wasn't going to do that, it opens up these kinds of si...