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When you and karl rove and others say this, it generates a lot of attention, a lot of mail about donald trump. there is some kind of thing happening out there, isn't there? a straight-talking guy? do you think it's all about the name recognition or hunger for somebody cutting through the traditional politician? >> it's all name recognition. he is a celebrity, he is on television and a guy who talks about winners and losers. the vul goorty of him is offense -- vulgarity of him is offensive. he talked today about comparing himself with mitt romney. i have a bigger net worth. that's what you expe...

>> bret: let me counter. when you and karl rove and others say this, it generates a lot of attention, a lot of mail about donald trump. there is some kind of thing happening out there, isn't there? a straight-talking guy? do you think it's all about the name recognition or hunger for somebody cutting through the traditional politician? >> it's all name recognition. he is a celebrity, he is on television and a guy who talks about winners and losers. the vul goorty of him is offense -- vulgarity of him is offensive. he talked today about comparing himself with mitt romney. i have a bigger net wo...

More gun deaths. and that states with tighter gun control laws have fewer gun related deaths. it sounds like it is not rocket science. we have a disproportionate share of weapons in this country and consequently a disproportionate share of gun violence. does that sum it up? >> yeah, that sounds about right. if you look at the research and data on this question, the weight of the evidence suggests when there are more guns, there are more gun deaths. and one way to think about this is every country in the world has disputes, conflicts between people, people get in arguments with their family and...

Defensive and he talked about how some of the reports as you mentioned on social media were not accurate. what he says according to witnesses what actually happens was after some sort of road rage incident and perhaps somebody cutting somebody else off. they were stopped at a busy intersection, joe mcknight, got out and that was where he was shot. >> there were reports that he was standing over his body and cursing at him and shooting at him, it is not accurate. he was shot three times, twice in the torsos and once in the knuckle. the reason he took a statement from gasser and released him bec...

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