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>> tucker: first of all, you don't have a separate reality from anybody else. the reality exists independent of your -- >> i think you have a separate reality because you're not recognizing what america is showing right now. >> tucker: i don't want to have a philosophicalow conversation with you. i just want to make the point that this ad accuses somebody specific, ed gillespie, of a specific crime that neither he nor his voters have committed, therefore, it is a lie, but morc than that, it is bad precisely for the reasons you just explained. people are scared. this makes them more scared on t...

They need three republican senators and we're told the democrats might have a third republican senator willing to vote no. >> we may in fact have an additional third republican senator voting no, which would stop her tomorrow. >> who is she referring to? >> reporter: our understanding from aides is that she was not referring to somebody specific. frankly, our reporting has that count at 50/50, which means that mike pence would come up here to break an historic tie in the senate. he of course is the tiebreaking vote. it's never happened before on a cabinet vote. that's what we've been told by t...

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Amount of planning. he wanted to make sure he got everybody's attention and he took control of the immediate area as much as he possibly could. if that's true it indicates a lot of planning and he has somebody specific in mind. megyn: what do you do to try to calm that man down. how do you bring the temperature down to where this guy surrenders and nobody gets hurt. >> you want him to know you want to hear what he has to say. the first issue is whether you have got a valid point and is what you are doing the best way to make that point. the negotiators will want to find out what his point is a...

Yet that would say that this person did act alone or that any of this fits the hall mamarks o anyone who is associated with any sort of network? >> what you do to determine that in the short term and obviously in long term, you can write a biography on the guy, but in the short term, what you are look for is imminent danger. and imminent danger, and if you find that the motive might be mental illness or a grudge against somebody specific, that will mitigate strongly against the accomplicaccomplices. >> what is in your view the steps that authorities will have taken. earlier reported that they ...