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>> the details of the people invited in that room is about as explanatory as can be and that's going to again to show the elements of a possible conspiracy if these people went on and carried out any further acts. and sort of -- what they agreed upon on that gathering. >> both don junior's attorney were fully prepared to make a statement that was a fulsome statement about the nature of the meeting, what led to the meeting and what the conversation was in the meeting. if you kind of read between the lines here john, is someone saying, did someone clamp down on donald trump jr. what he wanted to...

Meeting and what the conversation was in the meeting. so if you kind of read between the lines here, john, is someone saying -- did someone clamp down on don junior, what he wanted to say, and who might that have been? >> it certainly sounds that way that counsel is saying we wanted to tell all and we got shut down and we're unable to do so. now, you're raising the right question, who did that? was it another lawyer for another client that had a conflict with that or was it the president himself, mr. trump. and the reason this is important, i saw this happen in water gate where some of the pre...