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Was the case. first of all, it was never determined that there was anything of substance there, in there and secondly, why would the clinton campaign team be paying for any of that information and how is it possible this a white house server consultant is involved with payments to the clinton campaign? >> i think we have a pretty good idea what went on, martha. i think the tech people concluded that these were normal communications and we knew they were from a firm that was hired for publicity purposes. they were one-way communications between the bank and trump and it happened to all differen...

The day-to-day oversight of the investigation. that's emmet flood and jd maury raskins' spibt. his role has been getting the judges confirmed. grassley is upset because they've had a good relationship aound. that in terms of russia, i don't think it's any moment in terms of the judges, they have to find a new person to work with grassly and keep plowing through these judge appointments. >> julie, that leads me to my question for you to michael's point, politically, what itself the impact of someone leak don mcgahn leaving the white house? >> any time you have a senior official in a white house...