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I couldn't think of anyone in the film industry today who could sadly pass away -- let's say pick anyone -- who would have the attention she is getting today around the world. >> it's very true, and she, as i was saying to joan collins earlier, she was married eight times. so were you, larry. i think it would have been good for the pair of you to get together when you were younger. >> no, we had a friendship. >> might have saved you a lot of money, larry. >> yeah. it did. >> tell me more about her -- >> you'd have loved her. >> what was she like away from the cameras, larry? what was she like?...

Support aids research and to raise money for aids in a way that nobody had really been able to force through into mass appeal. >> she -- this campaign that you're looking at right now was actually inspired by her message, her bigger message that, in effect, aids was not an american problem. we were originally the american foundation for aids and it evolved into the aids foundation, and she was adamant that it was a global pandemic. if it existed anywhere, it existed everywhere. if anyone was infected, everyone was affected, so she somewhat inspired this campaign and everybody coming together h...

Had lived a lot and suffered a lot. >> carol, what do you think would be the way she would like to be remembered? what was most important to elizabeth, do you think? >> most important to elizabeth were her family, her friends, her care about aids research, standing up before anyone that we knew of in hollywood stood up after her friend rock hudson died a terrible death from aids. she came out and supported amfar and later her own foundation. she came to the studio with me when burt baccarat were putting on stevie wonder and gladys knight. it was then i realized we should give the money to eliz...

Was -- the film we just saw had a say, she was never afraid of the truth. >> that's certainly true. kenneth, that was a great driving thing about elizabeth taylor was she didn't care really what people thought. she was doing what she thought was the right thing. >> she had a genuine sense of social justice and appropriateness, and she was undeterred, and she had -- could not understand why everybody didn't realize how -- how critical the need was for appropriate funding and resources to address this critical aids crisis, and this was in 1985 when she and dr. krim founded amfar, and it wasn't u...

This message, and she was an extraordinary messenger of it. >> mathilde, although you say she didn't see it as a risk, everybody else did. it was a huge deal for a hollywood star like her to be going after this kind of cause. what effect do you think that liz taylor had on -- must call her elizabeth taylor, she hated being called liz, even though everybody else did -- that elizabeth taylor had on aids, on people, you know, wanting the treatment, what tangible effect did she have to improve people's lives, do you think? >> she had two effects. i think one is that she was delivering an expressio...