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It's awful. jedediah: that's interesting, because so much of the evidence was against him, and so many people were looking at him and saying, come on, you have to be kidding me with the way it was ruled. now you have to wonder if there's a whole bunch of people out there who say, well, he got away with it. so many people on his television the show, on empire defended him. you had a twitter field, almost seemed like there was no consequence. are you going to have a whole bunch of people around the country saying, oh, i can get away with this, get revered by the media and do interviews? pete: im...

These polls that were out yesterday, he has to be ashamed. >> i'm thinking when he hears this, he'll call in. >> he's used to being number one. when he drops from number one, ha its a jarring thing for somebody like trump. >> this isn't a drop. this is a plummet. this is a pulp met. >> it is off the cliff. >> so that's coming back. we're going to talk about that. >> it is thursday, october 15th. welcome to "morning joe." we've got mark halperin, former governor of vermont, former chairman of the democratic national committee howard dean. >> all right. >> let's go to i can braing news first. >>...