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So i was tells you just how outside the mainstream we've gotten that you know we're not having an argument anymore about illegal immigration and border security. very legitimate argument to have. we now want to go back on the american dream. we're talking about whether immigration is good for this country or not. that's the fundamental divide. democrats are going to be very tough. very to my memory. that we not go back and trash the immigration act. >> this is about making a system that is baitsed on merit. based on who will be additive to our economy. >> you can't predict. >> but the differen...

I'm telling you all guys, i'm not going to give the 11 million legal status and hope you all agree with us on merit-based immigration. do you understand leverage? >> yes, sir. >> do you think the president understands leverage? >> yes, sir. >> so here's what i would suggest to you. in phase 1, to expect my friends on the other side to go comprehensive for us and daca for them, it's not going to happen. i'm telling my friends on the other side, daca and nothing else is not going to happen. the sweet spot is daca plus more than the daca kids and making down payments on border security, moving sl...

What's going to happen? >> i hope that we can find a legislative package that addresses those four pillars that it appeared to me all the congressional members -- >> let's go through the four pillars. >> sure. >> border security. do you expect that the democrats will give the president everything he wants for border security in phase 1? >> no, sir. that's why we took the priorities he issued in the fall and we called them down. >> merit-based immigration. do you believe we'll move to a merit-based immigration in phase 1? >> completely, no. >> do you believe that because the democrats give us e...

Also been listening to this man make comments like this for over a year, for over, i think, two years at this point, and a lot of these guys voted for him, anyway, in spite of previous racial comments. they helped put this guy in the oval office and that's what they've got to work with. >> so the president's personal conduct, personal character now overwhelming. a conversation about a very important policy debate on which there are legitimate issues. we could have a debate about should the policy be about the poor or the downtrodden, or should it be merit based, what does the economy need? do ...

Legislative package that addresses those four pillars that it appeared to me. >> border security. do you expect that the democrats will get the president everything he wants from border security in phase one? >> no, sir. that's why we had the priorities issued in the fall and call them down. >> merit-based immigration, do you believe that we will move to a merit based immigration system in phase one? >> completely and fully, no. >> do you agree with me that the reason they want is to give us everything they want on border and merit-based immigration and go to nuclear family in terms of future ...