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We saw in black and white in emails from the president's son post-ed by the president's son that there was a meeting that at the very least he believed was part of a russian government effort to help his father. and you. >> go ahead. >> and you can't talk your way out of that. that is there in black and white. there is no arguing about the source of the information 37 i think that makes it powerful. >> eli, that's what i was going to ask you. this is granted, only one email chain. but a kind of comically incriminating subject line. and along with some of the text that follows. >> right. and it...

Reporting have been hinged on aanonymous sources people that the people can't for practical reasons know who the people are. it's been based on situation that is may look suspicious but in the end could be just coincidences. in this case we're talking about a meeting we know happened. and we know it happened because we saw in black and white in emails from the president's son post-ed by the president's son that there was a meeting that at the very least he believed was part of a russian government effort to help his father. and you. >> go ahead. >> and you can't talk your way out of that. that...

It's been based on situation that is may look suspicious but in the end could be just coincidences. in this case we're talking about a meeting we know happened. and we know it happened because we saw in black and white in emails from the president's son post-ed by the president's son that there was a meeting that at the very least he believed was part of a russian government effort to help his father. and you. >> go ahead. >> and you can't talk your way out of that. that is there in black and white. there is no arguing about the source of the information 37 i think that makes it powerful. >> e...