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Blackness and theology is part of what gave a lot of folks anxiety, and it soo ems to be -- it seems to be the thing that folks think they can use as a political wedge here. what are they missing of how that is understood within trinity, itself, and how are you feeling in the south side of chicago about being back in the news? >> well, of course, we don't want to be back in the news at that level, but at the same time it serves as an opportunity to speak of what we truly believe in. there is no difference of the africanity,and as someone who is reformed german, and as someone who is irish cath...