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What the miners have done and what coal has done for this country is something we should be able to honor. we don't have to -- if there soot defendable reliable fuel that runs 24/7, let me know. >> i hear you. it's tough. change is difficult. you want to protect what you have and prepare for what you're going to need in the future. it's not an easy balance. we'll see where the party comes out on it. joe manchin senator of west virginia, i appreciate your straight talk. >> thank you. always good to be with you. thank you. >> all right. when you have controversy, best thing to do is to get after...

If they want to see how well they will fair, come to west virginia. that is a good testing ground. >> you know, it's interesting. those on that side of the party, they hear you on the green new deal. they say joe manchin? joe manchin is protecting the jobs in his own state that are a jobs of a by gone era and joe got a lot of money from foos i fossil fuel. and he wants to protect that relationship. fair dig? >> that's a horrible analogy basically and wrong to from what they're saying. i support the miners and workers. that's where my heart and soul, is my dedication. where i was born and raise...