CNN Anderson Cooper 360 December 7, 2021 05:27:00
In the '50s. he said they don't want war. what they want is -- are the fruits of war. what -- what putin wants is for ukraine to become much weaker, far more dependent on russia, and to never become a member of nato. so, i think this is all a series of intimidations directed at both ukraine to cripple it and at the west to say do not cross that line. do not make ukraine a member of nato. if you do, you know, i have got 175,000 troops on their border. how many do you have? >> so, it's interesting. i mean, as much as it is about ukraine, it is also about nato's power in -- in eastern europe. is ...