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And you know, if you could, tucker, set the political stage for us. while all of this wasp haing because these things don't happen in a vacuum. >> no. martha: give everybody that background. >> the background of course was the presidential campaign. the president's re-election campaign of 2012 and a lot of these groups are the part of the same force that allowed the republican to take the house of representatives in the 2010 midterms. they were potent that year. the white house, everyone understood that. these were in effect people who might make the president's re-election difficult. in some ...

Housing numbers from april, reaffirmed earlier today, they were good year-over-year. here is live look. lawmakers about to interview conservative groups targeted by the irs. we'll talk to the man running today's hearing. he is congressman dave camp and owe is live next this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, y will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can helpe...

They have got a group from tennessee, a group of iowa and a group from the national organization for marriage. mike emanuel is standing by. we'll bring in mike in a moment. we want to get to dave camp. his opening statement as this hearing gets underway. some of these groups as martha just mentioned, they have been waiting at a minimum 2 1/2 years for america to hear their story. today they get their shot. >> in may of 2011 the irs started sending letters to donors of conservative-leaning nonprofits they could be liable for gift taxes. in june 2011 the ways and means committee launched a inves...

And the question is, who knew what when. we're still really trying to find that out. bill: do you think the objective was to slow down the organization so these political groups don't get, i guess, any steam or energy behind them? >> we know that they were slowed down. many of these applications, some have not been approved yet. have been pending over three years. the normal course is two to four months. so, and we know they were targeted simply because they had conservative views. so we know that they didn't target progressive groups according to the inspector general. we know that these were...

Sander levin offered these groups an apology. something those who were at the irs during the time of this targeting did not do when they were given the opportunity at previous hearings. while levin was not responsible for the behavior, he acknowledged that these folks, these different groups that were targeted for their beliefs deserved an apology, martha. martha: that's a great point. bill: mike, we believe, just stand by one moment here. that this could be the moment when we hear from the first of these six groups and we mentioned some of them. they have a tea party in their name. at least t...