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Dishry committee, saying reports of spying raise serious constitutional and separation of power concerns. one of the reporters who broke the news, a trump's department -- justice department spied on his own white house counsel. charlie savage, and he joins me now. first, i will just start with the basics here. i mean, this one really put my jaw on the floor. your own white house counsel. i mean, you know, we know that trump doesn't think particularly highly of adam schiff. and that, you know, thought "the new york times" and other places were sort of his enemies. and leak investigation. but do...

The interesting thing, we will be talking about this in a few days' time, is whether that really massive ambition actually, by monday, feels anything like having been achieved. i think it is more than any of the individual items, it is the overall message that diplomacy for democracies is back and, yes, it can make a difference to lots of people's lives in a good way. one of the interesting things to think about is what kinds of perhaps quite subtle hints or signs of error about how this group of countries wants to approach china and its influence and do they want to sorta very overt about the...

Work together really good things can happen. the interesting thing, we will be talking about this in a few days' time, is whether that really massive ambition actually, by monday, feels anything like having been achieved. i think it is more than any of the individual items, it is the overall message that diplomacy for democracies is back and, yes, it can make a difference to lots of people's lives in a good way. one of the interesting things to think about is what kinds of perhaps quite subtle hints or signs there are about how this group of countries wants to approach china and its influence ...

These were the neighbors. rich and linda johnson. lina and marion cockrell. >> todd had one airplane in the hangar and one in the driveway. they loved having an ex-fighter pilot for a neighbor. >> todd was always -- i mean, he was just a genuinely interesting guy. he would -- >> yeah. >> make eye contact with you. he always wanted to know about my job. "what sorta cases are you working on? what kind of law do you practice?" >> i had actually kind of looked at todd as kind of a "guy's guy." >> reporter: you enjoyed their company. >> we did. >> enjoyed todd a little more than rachel, maybe. >> i...

And paid his way. >> every night, after work, boom, we're going to cirque du soleil, to comedy clubs, to dinners. i mean, it was a big -- it was a six-week party down there. >> but it was back home in the airpark, where the winklers' social life blossomed. >> gosh, we have all kinds of things, from oktoberfest in october where the neighbors get together. christmas parties, easter, valentine's day parties. >> ice cream social and paper airplanes. >> ice cream socials. these were the neighbors. rich and linda johnson. lina and marion cockrell. >> todd had one airplane in the hangar and one in th...