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We're not trying hard enough. that is my opinion. >> what do you make of -- we played sound bytes there. people, i think mischaracterizing the segment, describing me as outrageed and angry. if you watch it, just, i mean, does this say outrage to you? >> when i read the piece author seems to have, she's african american and seemed to have real pain in having grown up with this image of a white santa. she speaks about it honestly saying i didn't understand why that had to be. your thoughts? >> i don't think that that had anger. i think, though, if i'm hurt, if i'm bitter, if i've unresolved issu...

How he handled the messy rules of the senate, historians are going to be a breathtaking grab of power. they can blame republicans too, but cokie, what i was fascinated by when i was in congress and turn to my republican brothers and sisters, i say you guys are acting like republicans are going to be in charge for the rest of our life. you do know that the way we treat them will be held against us when they get back in power. i wonder democrats employing this option, do they not know that 2014 is a grim landscape for them? >> mitch mcconnell was making that point and said we need -- it this way...

Voted for the bill. the democratic leader said they were just protecting themselves from getting steam rolled by attack ads. >> what you saw with those people who had real serious concerns, the fact of the matter is about 30 of them and i have talked to them were insulating themselves against sound bytes. >> does that work? >> that's the unknown question. they have gotten push back from insurers. to the president's proposed fix. the president of the leading trade group of insurance companies said they are trying to work out the policy disagreement from the white house. washington, d.c.'s insur...

Insurance policy, and you voted against it. so they wanted to insulate themselves from that. but the fact of the matter is, if you look at the second part of that deal, it allowed insurance policy companies to continue selling what we know to be substandard policies. >> but you still voted for it. >> i may not call them junk. gentlemen, they voted for them. i don't blame anybody for insulating themselves from the soundbytes because that's the world we live in, unfortunately. >> final word, do you see republicans going forward, unless something amazing happens between now and next year, this is...

This moment. i don't know, i like this person he is my friend but he is doing the wrong thing. how do i handle that. these are complicated situations that kids are getting into. they need more than sound bytes. >> parents think how do i get them off the video games? >> that is mine. >> and i had to start limiting to the point where i allowed my son to earn the time and it was limited in fashion. is there anything wrong with boys being fascinated by that? >> of course not. they are not all bad. what it is, is recognizing that it is so important for parents to not feel like oh, it is fine so the...