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We are where we are now because of the courage of the ukrainian fighters and because of u.s. firepower, whether it is directly from us or channelled through other nato countries. that's just my take. i think historians are going to look back and say, after one screw-up after another over the past 20 years, a commander in chief actually managed an international crisis well. >> joe, i would agree. he gets high marks. this indirect strategy of helping ukraine militarily, the sanctions, strengthening nato, all this looks good. you know, as you know, i've had problems all along with some of the rhe...

12, still, aren't eligible for the vaccine. is it safe, do you think, for parents -- vaccinated parents to get back to work and be on crowded airplanes and go home to their young-unvaccinated kids? i suppose, if the parents are vaccinated, they have protection. but what do you make of that -- that issue? >> i think it depends on the community. i mean, if -- if -- if you are in a relatively unvaccinated community, i think we still need to -- to assume that the virus is still circulating broadly and kids need to be protected. you know, there's an old study of measles transmission between 1999 an...

>> how he got elected. but at the same time, he's trying to appeal to the base. is he also unifying democrats? >> it's amazing, pam. >> this was a time where there was some division among the democrats. >> he made a big giant -- i know this is going to sound counterintuitive, but he handed a giant political gift to nancy pelosi sunday morning when he sent this tweet. because when you woke up that morning and saw maureen dowd had a comment about the differences between the four congresswomen. she was still dealing with backlash against the things she was saying about them and vice versa. not an...

Giuliani, who has been amplifying the president's message on twitter in a very big way. and i can tell you that they have watched these poll numbers change. and they feel that this is a winner. that the russia probe -- i know this is going to sound counterintuitive, but i've talked to some of the president's political advisers on this. they believe that for republicans in november, never mind the president when he runs for re-election, but republicans this november, that russia is a winner. because what they say they see in their polling is sort of noise, noise, noise, russia, and an attack on...

Things for them? >> well, it's even more of a distraction. i think in some ways this is going to sound counterintuitive, they can try to separate themselves even more by noting that the special counsel is, obviously, working very, very hard and doing a very aggressive job at getting to the bottom of what happened and why and when and who's culpable and all of those issues. so at the end of the day, we'll see what comes out of this and i think that's probably what you're going to hear republican after republican say. i will note that the -- that manu raju just reported to all of us he tried to ...