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We need clean water and access to the internet for everybody on earth. >> how long -- >> as strange -- >> how long do we have before these fires -- i'm not talking about climate change. i'm saying the fires. how long until if -- if they're still burning, is it weeks, months? >> that's a great question. but i can tell you this, every minute they burn is bad right now. these are -- you're going to get in fistfights in the global modeling bar about this. but the brazilian space research institute has done studies using space assets and this is a very, very serious problem. and the administer of t...

Have these catastrophic fires in the amazon, we can't have catastrophic fires anyway -- anywhere. we can't have unchecked agriculture, but we need agriculture if we're going to feed 9, 10, 11 billion people in the coming decades. we need clean water, renewable electricity, and access to the internet for everybody on earth. and that's going to take everybody working together. as long as it may seem -- >> bill, let me ask you -- no, i'm not talking about climate change. i'm saying the fires. how long until -- if they're still burning is it weeks, months, i don't know we can control -- >> that's ...

Threats to all of our space assets. it doesn't pertain to the moon. >> harris: like satellites and such? >> that's what we have to protect close to us. the ones we use for military, navigation, communications. but we do need to know that we can influence events on the moon. intent to going to the moon. we need need a presence there s well, so we know that the rule of law contracts, legal, standing, exist on the surface of the moon when we are operating there. >> harris: that's fascinating. must be on the more traditional cons like you might think you are talking about space in space. ownership...

Away territory in effect from u.s. allies. they've interfered in election, russia has, they've deployed space assets. what has the american response been? some sanctions here, some sanctions there have not fundamentally changed either country's behavior. that's a failure by any other definition. >> jim, fascinating book. thank you. robin wright, always a pleasure. >> thank you. next on "gps," the united states is already in a war, a trade war, with china. but what is the end game? i'll be back manyin a moment to discuss. th licensed agents available 24/7. it's not just easy. it's having-a-wa...

Are both very actively engaged in it. what do you think is the principle message you want to get out of the book? >> my principle message is this. i think that americans are generally aware of one front of what is a much broader war. they're aware of, for instance, russian interference in the election, or chinese theft of state secrets, which has been so central to the president's trade war with china today. but the fact is, there are many other fronts on which china and russia are attacking the u.s. and the west on a daily basis and with great effect. there are illegal land acquisition, occup...