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Overwhelming majority of the caucus thinks stability is the right course. let the speaker do what he said. finish out his term. hold the speakership elections after the november election. i agree with that. i think that's the wisest course. >> julie: ryan's camp argues that house republicans would be best served in the mid-terms by keeping him in the post through the election. how will ryan's presence affect republicans in the mid-terms by ryan sticking around and is he hampering kevin mccarthy's role as his ultimate replacement? >> no, he's not. i think kevin mccarthy will most likely be the ...

Of their country, denying what is so obviously clear to anybody who is watching about his complete and total manifest unfitness for this office. >> well, steve, i will let that be the last word of the segment and pretty powerful statement there from you. you guys are coming back in a little bit. we will be back in a moment with a voice from the democratic side, and she is house minority leader nancy pelosi, but could donald trump give her back the spe speaker's gavel? as we go to break, "snl" had their own take on the trump tape. >> do you think that he should drop out? >> no, no, no. give him...

>> let me go back to gene. eugene, it seems there's new lingo being thrown out by the speak pe speaker. he talks about a conversation. that's not a hard demand. >> a conversation is easy. you could argue they've been having a conversation by proxy through us, basically. and one said one thing and the other said another thing. you could construe a telephone conversation and boehner could take that as negotiations and declare victory. but he seems to be paralyzed or it seems to be unable to move because of the box he's been put in by the far right. and he can break out of that at some point, but...

That does it for now. i will be back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, follow us on twitter. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. >> thanks so much. and coming up next, the death of kim jong-il. the north korea headed for a power struggle and what's watching the news? plus, show down on the hill. harry reid is calling the spe speaker's bluff on the payroll tax. up next, right here, nbc whilen tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so ...