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Enforcement, and his supporters of course are not going to like this idea. is this a big mistake, a real losing battle for those on board for this abolish ice? >> well, first, i don't think that abolishing i.c.e. or if the idea is abolishing any law enforcement at the border is any point soon going to be a consensus position among d democrats, but does it hurt to have the voices out there stretching the debate in this way, i don't think. so i think that if you are looking at the idea of kind of stretching the boundaries of the debate and mobilizing aspects of their base, i think that it is not...