but at what price? he made a whole lot of concessions and it darn near came to blows. more on that later. just how did things unfold the way they did on that crucial 15th ballot, and how did mccarthy forces get those 6 never kevin members to end up voting present rather than against mccarthy? pennsylvania republican scott perry was a no vote on mccarthy too, but with he changed his mind a few voting rounds earlier. why then? we ll ask him, because perry is here now. and so is texas congressman keith selt who did the same thing. and look who wells is joining us this morning who else, none other than dan crenshaw who had some very choice words for those early holdouts, called them enemies, and that was even the nice part. what does he think no? and why dud south dakota republican dusty johnson insist republicans can move on now? he ll tell us. they ll all tell us because they re all here, and so are we. ed good morning, everybody, i m neil cavuto, and maybe i should be saying
and the republican majority has been part of the problem now for 20 the plus years. 10 trillion to 31 trillion, that s not to a good path. neil: congressman, there have been many democrats and even some of your moderate colleagues who worry about some of the concessions that kevin mccarthy made to get to that speaker s gavel point last night, and they say that you ve hamstrung him and that even the notion that any one of you can move to oust him has weakened his hand, and he s going to be the a heck of a lot weaker than nancy employees was pelosi was. and that s not in your interest or congress interest. what do you say? i say that nancy pelosi ruled with an iron fist. there wasn t any velvet over that iron fist. we have returned authority to the members of congress, so we will now act as the legislative body, the greatest legislative body on the face of the earth. debate and discussion, decisions and votes.