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To the special master. donald trump and his lawyers have to know by now, if they didn't know about already that they are going to lose at every term procedurally what the special master in this case. and they are going to lose in the 11th circuit court of appeals if a judge cannot intervene in the case so again in such a way that the justice department cannot appeal to a decision, by, her -- procedurally, donald trump and his lawyers know that the special master process, it might create some delay, it's not going to stop the justice department criminal investigation, which now appears to inclu...

Deputy general. let me begin with, you andrew weissmann, what have we learned about the trump lawyers and the special master process based on what the justice department filing reveals to us about what they are calling the disputes over these documents? it seems to me this reveals the trump lawyers never had any kind of a hint of a strategy of what this special master process was supposed to do for them. >> that's totally right. and you also read from a footnote where the department of justice, when it talks about the fact that their personal documents that are seized every single day of the w...

Circuit if it all comes to an end. >> just review, that andrew weissmann, the special master will make some rulings here. all of those rulings get submitted to judge can. and judge cannon can accept those rulings or not, by the special master. if the justice department doesn't like what judge cannon does, they can then appealed to the 11th circuit. judge cannon knows that the justice department has won with every single appeal point they have raised, now all the way up to including the u knighted state supreme court. and that she has been crushed by the process every time the justice departmen...

Have access to the classified documents. will you pull back the curtain on what kind of impact that has on his legal team? >> so, it is a very interesting question, why they filed this hair mary in the first place. and some of the guesswork involved this idea that what they did want was to have these documents submitted to the special master. either so that they could see them and assist them or perhaps out of a belief that doj and more to the point, the intelligence community, would be unwilling to submit those highly classified, very sensitive documents to the special master process. and tha...

Since day one. i have to ask you, the supreme court's order means the trump's legal team is not going to have access to the classified documents that were seized by the fbi. can you give us a sense and pull back the curtain on what kind of impact that has on his legal team? >> so, it's a very interesting question, alicia, why they filed this hail mary in the first place. some of the guesswork involved this idea that what they did what was to have these documents submitted to the special master. either so they could feed them and assess them or perhaps out of a belief that doj and more to the p...