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Congressman waltz, who is running the show? >> unfortunately that is a big part of the problem, the state department's and the defense department is in a supporting role. get when we presented antony blinken with that scenario, he denied it was happening. i can tell you multiple instances, just in my own office , much less that dozens of other offices that are running into this with american citizen that are being denied by the state department after they mad it through multiple taliban checkpoints. it is, it is just mind blowing that this is happening. but we do have many groups of former spe...

Unofficial channels. that's impressive. _ unofficial channels. that's impressive. spell - unofficial channels. that's impressive. spell it - unofficial channels. that's impressive. spell it out i unofficial channels. that's impressive. spell it out a | unofficial channels. that's i impressive. spell it out a bit unofficial channels. that's - impressive. spell it out a bit more for me — when you say you are pushing out, do you mean there are people, at extraordinary risk to themselves, getting beyond kabul to track and locate people who want to get out? track and locate people who want to net...

Why? because they don't like the idea of men like you, men and women, shedding their blood in a war they don't think they can win in a place that they don't think is theirs to fight. but i always wondered if they had been asked, are you okay getting out of afghanistan if you won't be as safe at home afterwards, what do you think of that proposition, chris? do you think that america can be as safe at home from terror attacks as it was with a presence in afghanistan? >> chris, i was -- i'm shamelessly partisan when it comes down to our special operations forces and our counterterrorism forces. i...

Theirs to fight. but i always wondered if they had been asked, are you okay getting out of afghanistan if you won't be as safe at home afterwards, what do you think of that proposition, chris? do you think that america can be as safe at home from terror attacks as it was with a presence in afghanistan? >> chris, i was -- i'm shamelessly partisan when it comes down to our special operations forces and our counterterrorism forces. i was enormously blessed and honored to serve with them for quite a period of time. when we defeated the taliban in 2001, we did that with 200 special operators and pa...

Called task force pineapple, after pineapple was used. joining me to discuss it is retired lieutenant colonel scott man. an afghan war veteran and a member of task force pineapple. scott, this is one, look, there's so many of these groups i heard of digital dun kirk, allied air lift, you have folks with different organizations like no one left behind who are spearheading these efforts. you and so many others working the phones night and day, using your personal networks to guide afghans and americans trapped in the region, tell us about task force pineapple. >> yeah. it started as a small grou...