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Is, where there's smoke -- even if there's no fire, there's a tendency to say, with the clintons there's always smoke. he kept coming back to the idea that there always seems to be something with these people. it has given them a closing argument. a closing argument that's not the end of democracy, basically. it has given the trump campaign something to actually talk about again. if you go back to july, the things comey said in the press conference could have been cut into ads. if the campaign wasn't so busy tripping over trump's mistakes, this is what they could have focused on. >> do you thi...

Tendency to say, with the clintons there's always smoke. he kept coming back to the idea that there always seems to be something with these people. it has given them a closing argument. a closing argument that's not the end of democracy, basically. it has given the trump campaign something to actually talk about again. if you go back to july, the things comey said in the press conference could have been cut into ads. if the campaign wasn't so busy tripping over trump's mistakes, this is what they could have focused on. >> do you think -- you are -- you have been around this town a long time. d...

Actually, but the idea is how do you then create a voting environment that's easier for people to use, the way they use other services. that will be really interesting is how you identify yourself in a digital sense and then get to vote and get to do all kinds of civic things and bring them together in an easy way. everyone is going to have these smartphones no matter their economic situation. >> i think it's a plot by life lock. if you're going to flash your social security everywhere, it's miracle-gro for identity theft. >> i want to hit one more point. a lot of talk about jeb bush and his c...

Actually, but the idea is how do you then create a voting environment that's easier for people to use, the way they use other services. that will be really interesting is how you identify yourself in a digital sense and then get to vote and get to do all kinds of civic things and bring them together in an easy way. everyone is going to have these smartphones no matter their economic situation. >> i think it's a plot by life lock. if you're going to flash your social security everywhere, it's miracle-gro for identity theft. >> i want to hit one more point. a lot of talk about jeb bush and his c...

>> i want to hit one more point. a lot of talk about jeb bush and his comments this week about illegal immigrants actually committing a crime that is an act of love. a lot of focus on whether he is -- a, does he really want to do this, and, two, will he be eaten alive by the primary process. what's your read on this? >> it's way too early figure out if he's running or not. it's a speculation machine in d.c. we're two years out of a campaign. he's -- >> it's called our lifeblood. >> a machine. the wider question -- i have proud of him regardless if he runs. i believe leadership has been replace...