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Jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare -- [ crowd booing ] -- admitted it was all a fraud. he said it was passed because of the stupidity of the american voter. we're doing a lot of good work, aren't we? we are catching all of these people. we are doing a good job. jonathan gruber. there is another. we didn't forget. i never forgot jonathan gruber. i said, you know, if i do this, we are going to run. his name came up and people forget after a week or two. he said i'm never going to forget jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare. >> that's donald trump speaking live right now up in new...

What democrats are saying is that like cory booker, the mayor of newark, new jersey, he should run on his record. let's run through on his record. first thing, passed an 800 stimulus, and still have 8% employment. then passed the obama health care law, the greatest thing the democrats wanted since the new deal. he won't talk about that. then he passed dodd-frank, too complex to talk about and he raised spending to 24 to 25% of gdp, which is not what the american people want to hear, that's the obama record and he won't talk about that and there's nothing grand beyond that for him to talk about...

Solutions like the ones i just mention. we have to to have this the hour is late. and the country going to go over the cliff soon if we don't. >> martha: mitt romney talked about his health care plan in massachusetts. he's trying hard to distance himself from the president's health care plan. the biggest criticism is that he came out with the same idea that he's now criticizing. how did that speech go over with you personally? >> i didn't see the speech. i was traveling today. i think mitt romney is the best person to address the romney approach to health care. the approach i took in minnesota...

Solutions like the ones i just mention. we have to to have this the hour is late. and the country going to go over the cliff soon if we don't. >> martha: mitt romney talked about his health care plan in massachusetts. he's trying hard to distance himself from the president's health care plan. the biggest criticism is that he came out with the same idea that he's now criticizing. how did that speech go over with you personally? >> i didn't see the speech. i was traveling today. i think mitt romney is the best person to address the romney approach to health care. the approach i took in minnesota...

But can he just change course and repudiate three years of policy and change direction? >> in theory he certainly could, but he won't. what democrats are saying is that like cory booker, the mayor of newark, new jersey, he should run on his record. let's run through on his record. first thing, passed an 800 stimulus, and still have 8% employment. then passed the obama health care law, the greatest thing the democrats wanted since the new deal. he won't talk about that. then he passed dodd-frank, too complex to talk about and he raised spending to 24 to 25% of gdp, which is not what the america...