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And it's -- everything is tbd. and we'll see. >> and are you -- this is what i've got to ask you. it's a weird one, but you were out there recording all of this. some people take issues with your methods. are you worried about winding up in jail? >> i don't think he should really be answering that at this time. >> what should you say, bret, about that? i mean, that's the larger context of all of this. is this -- you say, about the timing, is this sending a message, is this chill speech, is there a speech issue for protesters or reporters or would-be reporters out there who might go to the next...

Defense if there's a problem here. what he did was say, get them out. you remember, he did it in a coy way. he can't say to touch him. i can't say hurt him, et cetera because that would get me in trouble with the media, et cetera. you have this theory this person, this president, that then can't was actually trying to compel exactly what happened. i commend that young woman for i certainly commend the yang woman for having the composure to we able to with stand the abuse. >> and she i think has a lawsuit against the people who hit her. >> absolutely. >> that's very straightforward. there's no ...

Defense if there's a problem here. what he did was say, get them out. you remember, he did it in a coy way. he can't say to touch him. i can't say hurt him. that would get me in trouble with the media. you have this theory this person, this president, that then can't was actually trying to compel exactly what happened. i commend that young woman for having the composure to withstand the abuse. >> and she i think has a lawsuit against the people who hit her. >> absolutely. >> that's very straightforward. there's no speech issue there. i think you have to listen to what candidate trump said. he ...

Candidate who had his on fragrance. success by trump. it is an example of corporate america taking a stand on a speech issue. for trump, it is something he is able to take and try to use to his advantage. rich loury talked about it. there are fewer things in the environment than getting fired and boycotting for something they said. it credits a moment. >> he is able to use the setbacks and use to his advantage. pitting the issue of chinese currency manipulation. he was benefitting from that up until this moment by having his products made in china. >> there is electricity when he talks about t...

So that was a whole different deal. how do you see it, mary katharine? >> here is a couple things, as you mentioned, bill, it's about spreading propaganda. not just an issue that effects the lbgt community. it's a speech issue for many russian people and where it might go from there. it's a broader issue in that sense. there is a couple concrete things barack obama could do. is he big on symbolism when it comes to diplomacy and not so much on taking these concrete actions but i think could make a difference. in this case the act 2012 by the congress bipartisan the one that barack obama says ne...